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| MattH | Hiya CM |
| Marlowe | hi Matt |
| Marlowe | see the Biography special on Buffy on A&E? |
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| impalergeneral | and hello |
| MattH | Don't get A&E. I'll probably dl it from usenet = someone is bound to post it. |
| MattH | Hiya Impaler |
| impalergeneral | Matt, you don't get A and E? You must not have Cable. I am taping it tonight. |
| MattH | I have cable - just basic cable. I got it so I could get a decent UPN picture and for internet access. I really don't watch that much TV |
| Marlowe | I just saw it a minute ago |
| impalergeneral | how was it? |
| Marlowe | not bad |
| impalergeneral | any tape of them filming the fniale? |
| Marlowe | kind of sketchy, though |
| impalergeneral | sketchy? about the plot of the show? |
| Marlowe | not that I could tell |
| Marlowe | how they described each season |
| Marlowe | no mention of Tara's death or Spike's attempted rape |
| impalergeneral | well, how can you condense seven years of a show that isn't getting as much respect as it should into two hours? |
| MattH | lzh compression? |
| impalergeneral | the attempted rape I can understand, but skipping Tara's death? |
| MattH | ;-) |
| impalergeneral | wait, Marlowe, is the A and E show on Buffy over already? |
| Marlowe | for me, David |
| impalergeneral | Minear's here? WOW! |
| Marlowe | I'm on mountain standard time |
| Marlowe | wow, Minear actually made it! |
| impalergeneral | Oh, so it's still going on. I though it was two hours, and it's still going on in the east |
| impalergeneral | you must have the east coast feed, Marlowe |
| Marlowe | only one hour David |
| impalergeneral | Oh, then maybe I can see who survives the end of Dawson's Creek after all |
| MattH | I think I watched the first four episodes of Dawson...then got bored. |
| Marlowe | I have never watched Dawson's Creek |
| impalergeneral | I didn't see any of them, no matter who beyond cute Katie Holmes is |
| impalergeneral | Minear saying "abandoned"? |
| Marlowe | oh god, the pretzel story |
| impalergeneral | uh, oh....now the secret comes out! |
| impalergeneral | yeah, you'll never have these stories published anywhere |
| MattH | Doubt it would sound as funny on the printed page. |
| Marlowe | probably not |
| Marlowe | I think Angel was better written than Buffy this year |
| MattH | In some parts. I think the last half of Angel this year was awesome,. but didn't care for a lot of the early portion of the season. |
| impalergeneral | I'll say. The plot lines were better co-ordinated than over at Buffy, where they stalled too much. You could have cut out a few shows, and have more room for a better ending. We could have lived without "him" for example |
| impalergeneral | Ah, the theme song for "Harsh Light of Day" |
| MattH | Hey, I liked "Him" |
| impalergeneral | well, the jacket kidnapping was funny |
| MattH | I think they should have killed off Anya in Selfless...she has been a non-entity since. |
| MattH | I think they haven't actually showed the First Evil as being that dangerous...they keep talking about it, but it doesn't seem as threatening as most of the other big bads. |
| impalergeneral | Well, the First can't do the heavy work. It needs whoever would be more effctive at the right time, which explains yesterday's ending. The Master, Angelus and Mayor Evil Guy were classic evil guys |
| impalergeneral | they were hands-on types |
| impalergeneral | well, running new shows ten weks in a row can do wonders for ratings |
| MattH | The problem is that the First ability to manipulate people just doesn't seem that decent. It would be nice watching it corrupt a member of the scoobes. for example. The triggering of Spike wasn't that imptessive. |
| Marlowe | interesting |
| impalergeneral | It enhanced the uncertainty of his redemption, which is all you could do. It would also have helped if Willow or Dawn were corrupted. |
| impalergeneral | Dawn would have been a more tragic choice, except dawn would be allowed to fight it to the point that she would have gone either way |
| MattH | Or Buffy... |
| Marlowe | if home was the pilot for the next season, next season should be fantastic |
| impalergeneral | That would ahev worked too, since it spent a lot fo time as FirstBuffy, the Buffy slayer |
| MattH | Or corrupting Giles would have been nice, as opposed to that fakeout on "is he dead or not" |
| impalergeneral | Now THAT is an idea! |
| impalergeneral | Stella Dallas Place? Is that Connor's new address? |
| MattH | Also. an emphasis on the Watcher's Council. prior to them being blowing up would have been good. As it was, I had no real no emotional attachment to them one way or another. |
| impalergeneral | Yeah, but I hope a new WC can emerge, even if it's from the corrupt mass that is the W and H office...kind of like it was now |
| MattH | It just would have been nice if Jasmine had been named Landru... ;-) |
| Marlowe | LOL |
| Marlowe | yeah, the Will of Landru |
| impalergeneral | Yeah, she is the Blessed Cannibal Goddess, but no one fights, so.... |
| Marlowe | pretty good Star Trek ep |
| impalergeneral | Jasmine Landru...perfect new-age name |
| impalergeneral | yeah, and when L-A finds out the truth they act just like it's the red hour |
| MattH | Standard LA reaction to news - set some cars on fire. ;-) |
| impalergeneral | yeah, and we don't have the excuse of the Lakers winning |
| MattH | I thought the whole Angel/Cordelia thing sucked.... |
| Marlowe | gee, the writers themselves hate it? |
| MattH | As did the whole "higher being" thing... |
| impalergeneral | yeah, they figured out what is forbidden for Buffy is forbidden for everyone else. making her an evil pawn would have been better |
| Marlowe | about time they admitted it :-) |
| impalergeneral | Good. It's nice to admit mistakes. All she could do was righ a slot machine and wake angel up |
| impalergeneral | I mean rig a slot machine |
| MattH | I liked how all of the last four+ years was merely a set up for bringing out Jasmine. I have never liked the "PTB as good guys" concept. |
| impalergeneral | the PTB's haven't been good guys since the snowstorm in Amends. |
| Marlowe | are the Senior Partners PTB? |
| MattH | At the time, they seemed to be good... saving Angel provided visions for guidance. |
| impalergeneral | they're not good guys |
| MattH | I don't think the senior partners are part of the PTB. I think in many ways it is a choice between evils. The obvious evil and the evil that does good that is actually evil. |
| impalergeneral | like the good goddess with the maggot center |
| MattH | The maggot stuff doesn't bother me...eating people does. |
| MattH | Oooh...a DC comics reference.... |
| impalergeneral | for me, it's both |
| impalergeneral | Cordy as Mrs. Freeze? Is she in a snow-globe? |
| MattH | It would have been interesting to have a good character that is really ugly...All of the good people on Angel and BTVS are good looking... |
| Marlowe | not Mr Freeze, Mr Freeze's wife |
| impalergeneral | I said Mrs. freeze. Maybe Cordy can communicate as a disembodied wise-cracking voice |
| impalergeneral | That should keep her part of things |
| MattH | I guess telling Angel to chill under those circumstances would be a bad idea... ;-) if Cordy is "Mrs. Freeze" |
| Marlowe | sorry, you Did say Mrs. |
| MattH | BRB |
| Marlowe | nice to know that the fans can be right sometimes |
| Marlowe | I'm wondering how they'll fit James Marsters in the show |
| Marlowe | crap...I've lost the show |
| impalergeneral | well, I am beginning to suspect he'll be there in a form that is unexpected...considering what happened last night' |
| Marlowe | oh good, I've got it back |
| Marlowe | yeah, I have no idea what he'll be on Angel...human/vampire/something else |
| Marlowe | kind of glad Cordy and Connor won't be back |
| impalergeneral | I like Cordy as the comatose body with the ability to communicate through a disembodied voice. That would be better than her just still |
| impalergeneral | I think W and H prefers dead employees. They don't have to be apid |
| Marlowe | is Lilah the only dead employee? |
| impalergeneral | there's Holland Manners, too..remember? |
| Marlowe | I mean currently |
| MattH | I'd like to see Holland Manners again/ |
| Marlowe | I already knew about Hollad |
| impalergeneral | Well, I think there may be others |
| impalergeneral | maybe the current staff are all undead |
| Marlowe | are the rest of the people are W&H the zombified lawyers or brand new people? |
| MattH | Well, their boss is undead, |
| Marlowe | lucky UK people |
| impalergeneral | well, maybe half and half |
| Marlowe | they get the unaired eps of Firefly |
| Marlowe | yay on the dvd |
| impalergeneral | the UK has respect for its TV shows..they make 13, they show them ALL |
| MattH | Sci-Fi channel canceled "B5:Crusade" cause they don't like "space shows" |
| impalergeneral | can't say that about Firefly, or even Just Shoot me |
| impalergeneral | Sci-Fi doesn't like space shows? That makes no sense |
| MattH | It doesn't make sense, no. |
| MattH | But since when is making sense a requirement for Hollywood. |
| impalergeneral | well, that sure explains why movies with alleged grown-up actors only appeal to fifth graders...*cough*SweetHomeAalbama*cough*HowToLoseAGuyIn10Days*cough* |
| Marlowe | hmm, the Wonder Falls series actually might have a chance |
| impalergeneral | well, it depens on whether people like the idea of talking Hummel figures |
| impalergeneral | there's another show where a teen talks to God disguised as a lunch lady or homeless guy |
| impalergeneral | CBS is making it |
| Marlowe | Drew Goddard is moving to Angel? |
| impalergeneral | well, someone has to |
| MattH | Gee...how come they can't have god as the CEO of a major corporation or a lawyer. A homeless guy is so stereotypical. |
| Marlowe | I was hoping he would move to Angel |
| impalergeneral | well, the first shall be last, the last shall be first, and all that |
| MattH | 1st two seasons of BTVS were 16mm |
| impalergeneral | gee the WB gave Angel no respect..until now? |
| impalergeneral | Yeah, the REAL employees knew a fifth season of Angel+refugees from Buffy=big ratings boost |
| MattH | Especially since Smallville will be the lead-in now. |
| Marlowe | yeah, the execs grew another brain cell |
| impalergeneral | no, they grew one |
| MattH | Well, they could move the date of the Succubus club to Thursday. |
| impalergeneral | Hmm....boring wrestling or Succubus Club? Seems obvious to me |
| MattH | I don't watch any TV on Thursday, so it would be a good use of the time. |
| impalergeneral | Emma Caufield..the next Jane Powell! |
| MattH | I didn't care for this song - I liked her duet with Xander much better. |
| Marlowe | I wonder if they can move the show to a different night |
| impalergeneral | Well, at least it's a second chance for Joss go get a music Emmy nomination |
| Marlowe | Emma has a nice voice |
| impalergeneral | oops, she just got stabbed |
| MattH | My favorite song was Tara's song to Willow. Talk about a nice voice... |
| impalergeneral | Maybe Amber can get involve in a Buffy spinoff in '04 or '05 |
| MattH | "Thanks - Catty" - ROFLMAO.... ;-) |
| Marlowe | heck Amber can probably write and direct the spinoff |
| impalergeneral | yeah, Spike and Angel..in a fight to the death for six months--or not |
| MattH | Yeah...it would be nice to hear her and Andy Hallet in a duet, though. |
| Marlowe | heee, now i'm envisioning Tara singing 'under your spell' to Lorne |
| impalergeneral | Spike didn't ruin Buffy |
| MattH | I am not thrilled with JM going to Angel. |
| Marlowe | I totally thrilled |
| Marlowe | but not sure how they would fit him on Angel |
| MattH | Unless he Shansu's ... that would be hilarious. |
| impalergeneral | Hmmm....considering what Spike's situation is now...it should be almost impossible to put him in a believable situation. But what do I know? |
| impalergeneral | He better not Shansu....until Angel does. |
| MattH | After Wolfram and Hart gave the office to Angel...the wrong vampire with a soul...;-) |
| impalergeneral | Angel's not the wrong anything. Spike is! |
| Marlowe | hah! so the networks did want James Marsters to be on the show |
| MattH | I just think it would be hilarious...all the propehcies that have been yanking Angel around...can you see the PTBs and Senior Partners "Whoops, never mind!" |
| impalergeneral | or maybe the PTB's will cancel the cancellation of the "perfect day", but he gets to keep his vampiry powers. |
| MattH | Too fanfictiony.... |
| impalergeneral | maybe, but the PTB's owe Angel big for making him think HE was the Chosen Undead One |
| impalergeneral | yeah, bring back Pikachu Girl |
| MattH | Like they care... |
| impalergeneral | a new girl who will try to take some Fang Gang souls? Maybe a threat to Lilah? Makes sense |
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| impalergeneral | oh, a new person! Hello, Lord |
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| Marlowe | The Lord formerly known as Matt? |
| Lord | Yeah.... how do I change that again? |
| Marlowe | got no clue |
| Marlowe | I' |
| Marlowe | I've always been myself |
| impalergeneral | me too. I don't have too many aliases |
| Lord | \nick MattH |
| Marlowe | I like this song |
| Marlowe | kind of trippy |
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| impalergeneral | all this info tonight means I'll have to update my review. |
| MattH | Figured it out (obviously) |
| impalergeneral | MIss Pope, why have you been wearing black for a month? |
| impalergeneral | I wouldn't watch Scooby Doo, mainly because of what I've heard about it |
| Marlowe | the first Scooby Doo or the sequel? |
| impalergeneral | the first one |
| MattH | I plan on renting the video once of these days. |
| Marlowe | I will never rewatch it |
| Marlowe | Can't imagine being that bored |
| Marlowe | Scrappy must die!!!! |
| impalergeneral | Freddie Prinze Jr. as a blonde is just wrong somehow |
| impalergeneral | then again, Freddie in any movie....well, you get the idea |
| Marlowe | totally wrong as Freddie |
| Marlowe | SMG as Daphne was also a mistake |
| impalergeneral | couldn't Katie Holmes do that? |
| MattH | I liked him in "She's All That" |
| impalergeneral | or is she too smart for that? |
| MattH | The movie played well in its target demographic. |
| impalergeneral | the WB, the network that Slaying bult..and it should admit that |
| MattH | Next Tuesday is going to be painful... |
| impalergeneral | well, I have my suspicions on who will NOT be left standing..aside from Anya |
| MattH | Any SITs wearing red will die....just a prediction |
| impalergeneral | Kennedy was the only SiT that really bloomed, Amanda a close second. |
| MattH | I don't recall K&C loveing season 6 during the season. |
| Marlowe | can't remember myself |
| Marlowe | But they do like the season now |
| MattH | I should be getting the Season 6 DVD's shortly. |
| impalergeneral | well, they had time to reflect..and that they knew Buffy's resurrection wold be difficult. It's not like getting over Chicken Pox |
| impalergeneral | Spike as the new Fonzie? I don't recall him saying aaaaaaaay. |
| Marlowe | yeah, there's article about Spike as the Fonzie |
| MattH | Smashed was the episode where "Spike ruined the show" ;) |
| impalergeneral | it's in Salon. |
| Marlowe | you need to subscribe or a day pass to read it |
| impalergeneral | I think the article said he ruined things after "Conversations..." |
| Marlowe | I've seen the article posted at other boards |
| MattH | I like Dawn and I am not a "younger audience" |
| impalergeneral | So Spike was a vicious killer to impress Dru, yet could have had more humanity without her? |
| impalergeneral | if so, why do we need angel? |
| MattH | I was watching Surprise again tonight...I have always liked the human qualities of Spike. I just don't like Spuffy...I think it is a load of BS (or B/S) |
| impalergeneral | AMEN! It was a cheesy knockoff of the REAL love story |
| impalergeneral | but it was necessary because Buffy needed someone now that Giles had left. |
| Marlowe | I kinda like Spuffy |
| MattH | If I have a ship ... it is B/X. |
| impalergeneral | it was one of those things where you had one choice, and it's pretty lousy |
| Marlowe | but I can live without the Spuffy |
| MattH | I like the interaction between Buffy and Spike...I just didn't like it as a romantic entanglement. |
| impalergeneral | If Angel never existed, it could have been Xander, but could he had coped with being the boyfriend of a superhero in the long run...or could he have cheated on her with Willow (oh, wow, what a possibility) |
| impalergeneral | From the rumours I have heard, I THINK I know what the joke suggests. I won't say it, though |
| impalergeneral | it's icky..I'll say that |
| Marlowe | that would have been an interesting way to go,David |
| Marlowe | ROFLMAO |
| MattH | God that is funny. |
| Marlowe | they need to get their own show *g* |
| Marlowe | the Drew, David and Tim hour |
| Marlowe | I'll miss Minear |
| impalergeneral | Fox is giving its list of new shows tomorrow. We should know by then |
| impalergeneral | yeah, David, sing about getting the mustard out! |
| impalergeneral | lesbians have no sense of humour? Since when? |
| MattH | Check the Kitten board |
| MattH | Riley was lesbian |
| impalergeneral | coming soon...David Fury in a musical Tuide commericial about getting the mustard out |
| impalergeneral | I mean Tide commercial |
| Marlowe | beautiful! |
| impalergeneral | well, it's been fun. Remember....http://www.geocities.com/impalergeneral |
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| Marlowe | excellent show tonight! |
| Marlowe | see you later Matt, Lord of the Chat |
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