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| Session Start (vendetta.fef.net:#thesuccubusclub): Wed Jun 16 17:47:35 2004 |
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| Elais | heyas Matt |
| MattH | Hiya CM |
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| MattH | Hiya DIYA |
| Elais | hi DIYA |
| DeathIsYourArt | hi hi! |
| MattH | So what does everyone think is the possibility of the BTVS animated series actually happening? |
| DeathIsYourArt | Candy's e-mail worked. I am up to 600 votes. Not a bad turn out. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I think the series will happen, the question is how long it will last |
| MattH | Awesome... |
| MattH | Yeah...I am worried they will dumb it down because it is a "cartoon" |
| Elais | I voted yesterday on the Golden Fangs |
| Elais | I don't think so |
| Elais | I thought they already had a bunch of scripts from when they originally tried to get the animated series off the ground |
| DeathIsYourArt | ya but they can only go so far with it. It is a cartoon aimed at teenagers |
| MattH | Have either of you heard the actress they will be using to replace SMG? |
| Elais | at least it is something! |
| Elais | all I know is that she did Buffy's voice on the video games |
| MattH | Something...the fact that this is happening reminds me more and more of Star Trek. |
| MattH | It had an animated series (short-lived) after the end of The Original Series too. |
| Elais | well, that Trek animated series was some time ago Matt |
| Elais | and not exactly high quality stuff |
| MattH | The animation was poor - the scripts weren't bad. |
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| MattH | I am just think that this is a good sign for the longevity of the Buffyverse. |
| OutOfMud | hiya |
| MattH | Hiya OutOfMud |
| OutOfMud | watcha all talking about? |
| MattH | Buffy, The Animated Series |
| MattH | Its chances, et. al. |
| OutOfMud | oh, cool. |
| OutOfMud | I'm keeping my fingers well crossed... |
| Elais | so am I |
| MattH | Hi was just comparing BTVS to the Original Star Trek, which also had an animated series for a while. |
| Elais | pretty desperate for any buffy-related series at this point |
| MattH | I am definitely praying for the show. |
| OutOfMud | How's this chick from the buffy video game? Any good? |
| MattH | Don't know...haven't heard her voice. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I'm pissed that TV guide made me think that there actually was some new news.... damn them! |
| DeathIsYourArt | The cartoon stuff has been floating around for a month |
| MattH | Hearing TV Guide say it though.... |
| MattH | Isn't the same as hearing it on a fan site. |
| OutOfMud | That kinda has me worried, not having SMG on. It's not like she's not an integral part |
| DeathIsYourArt | I'm not worried about her not being around. Especially since she apparently is not good with voice overs for cartoons. They had problems with ehr on the simpsons |
| OutOfMud | What kind of problems? |
| DeathIsYourArt | Not sure, but it took 3 days longer to finish her parts or something... they just said unspecified problems |
| OutOfMud | Sounds odd. 'Cause I can't imagine what problems an actress could have on voice-overs, since acting itself is very much a voice-work as well. |
| MattH | I have just been reading some reviews of "Chaos Bleeds" - the game in question. Says Giselle Loren sounds a great deal like SMG. |
| Elais | Giselle said she did study SMG's voice |
| MattH | That doesn't surpise me. |
| OutOfMud | I assume Broeanaz isn't doing Angel too... |
| MattH | I just hope the series goes through this time. |
| Elais | too bad Spike isn't in the series |
| MattH | Hmm...if it is still set in Season 1, that would be interesting. |
| MattH | Thinking about it...I would prefer an animated series to a movie. One of the things I liked best about Buffy were the season(s) long plot arcs. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Maybe they will add Spiek and Dru eventually. However, i think Joss will wan tto keep them out. I think he is going to try to return it to the idea that all unsouled demons have no good qualities. I don't think he wants grey in a cartoon |
| Elais | yeah, I would think they want to keep the cartoon fairly black and white |
| Elais | replacing Flutie with Snyder is a good idea |
| OutOfMud | I disagree. Joss said he didn't want a kiddie show, he wanted an adult cartoon, and adult world is all grey |
| MattH | I know the original cartoon was going to have Dawn....despite her not really existing in S1. Any idea/knowledge of whether or not that is still true? |
| OutOfMud | I'd think he would want to keep it as complex as Buffy, but different |
| DeathIsYourArt | ya Dawn is suppose to be included |
| MattH | Probably it is good news for the state of BTVS fanfiction, too. |
| DeathIsYourArt | why do you say that? |
| MattH | Stirs up the fan base. Plus a lot of fanfiction is inspired by what is currently being shown. |
| Elais | lucky that they introduced Dawn |
| Elais | so they had another avenue of stories |
| MattH | Yeah...it will be interesting to see how they integrate her into stuff we know happened differently in the past. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Well if they stick in season one they only have 12 stories to navigate around |
| MattH | In the comic book, they showed some scenes from the original eps with her in them. |
| MattH | I am sure more happened than we saw in those 12 episodes. |
| MattH | Question is, will the show progress through HS, or will it stay in 1st season always. |
| OutOfMud | I don't think they need to make it "real time" like the show. Cartoon characters don't get old. |
| OutOfMud | They can be in highschool forever and ever. |
| Elais | the simpsons have been running for like 11 seasons now? |
| OutOfMud | That way they won't have issues with major things that happened - like B/A, Buffy leaving, blowing up the school and such. |
| MattH | I understand that...I just think that after a certain point and time you run out of stories. |
| MattH | 15 season I think for the Simpsons |
| MattH | I have trouble buying that all of the stuff that happened on the Simpsons has happened in the course of 1-2 years....but the characters never get any older. |
| Elais | don't think the animated series would be on for more than a couple years |
| OutOfMud | Doesn't have to be. It just needs to be a little buffy-fix until Ripper or FtVS comes along. |
| OutOfMud | Or they could all be at once, whatever. |
| MattH | Or Tales of the Key.... ;-) |
| OutOfMud | Oh, *shudder*.... |
| MattH | Ripper is only going to be 6 to 8 eps...not enough for me. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Matt she will never go back to it. She ahs this weird idea that Dawn didn't evolve. And considering that my opinion of Dawn changed about 6 times in her run, i would say taht she did. Lets see how much evolution she feels when she is doing Eurotrip 7 |
| Elais | dont' think ripper will hapeen |
| Elais | happen |
| Elais | think the ripper idea has been around longer than the animated idea |
| OutOfMud | yeah, Ripper seems the least likely of all. |
| Elais | but would have been the coolest |
| OutOfMud | And FtVS is sliding away as well, what with Tru Sucking being picked up for some ungodly reason. |
| DeathIsYourArt | FOX is evil |
| MattH | People have been known to change their minds...especially if they move from a supporting role to the main role. |
| MattH | Tru Calling has grown on me.... |
| Elais | didn't watch it much, but it apparently improved when they introduced Jason Priestly's character |
| OutOfMud | I refused to watch it after the pilot. I figured if I ignore it, maybe it'll go away. |
| MattH | DIYA - I definitely agree with you about Fox...I think CBS, NBC and ABC are also evil. |
| MattH | Jury is still out on UPN...they did pick up BTVS after all. |
| DeathIsYourArt | And never forget the WB |
| MattH | Hisss....The Great Satan! |
| DeathIsYourArt | Don't insult Satan that way...he did nothing to you! |
| MattH | Tru Calling improved somewhat with the addition of Priestly, but the plots are still repetitive. |
| MattH | I am sure Satan had something to do with Angel getting booted from the airwaves.... |
| DeathIsYourArt | I just wish that they would actually give Eliza a make-up and hair person with 20/20 vision |
| DeathIsYourArt | It will not make me watch the show, but it would be better for her |
| MattH | Eh...I think she looks more like a morgue attendant this way. |
| DeathIsYourArt | But is it so far fetched to think that if she joined a beauty contest that she might actually go to a salon? |
| MattH | To be honest...I never really noticed...I don't think she is someone that needs much makeup. |
| Elais | yeah..she doesn't need a lot |
| DeathIsYourArt | I agree, but what they are putting on her is not doing anything for her |
| DeathIsYourArt | It doesn't matter anyways. I have seen a total of 2 hours of the show sperad out over 5 episodes and I was bored and kept wondering if the supporting cast knew how bad they were acting |
| MattH | The supporting cast has gotten much better. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Maybe I'll check out what they do with it in the Fall |
| MattH | I like Tru's boss and her brother. Her sister bites, though. |
| Elais | i might try one or two eps |
| MattH | I still think they are going to run out of plot lines Real Soon Now |
| Elais | so do I, Matt |
| MattH | Unless they do a crossover with Dead Like Me |
| DeathIsYourArt | They need to stop beating a dead horse and let the series go |
| MattH | Or change it. |
| MattH | I would prefer to see Faith myself...but I'll take what I can get. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I'll take any JOSS stuff I can get, I just don't want to wait too long for it. |
| Elais | looking forward to the Serenity movie? |
| MattH | Yeah I know...I just think how long it took before ST: TOS an ST:NG |
| DeathIsYourArt | Actually yes. I wasn't a fan of the show the first time around. however, i have watched it repeat on Space and now I like it |
| MattH | Not I ....I didn't care for Firefly...although I will probably watch unless it gets really bad reviews. |
| OutOfMud | Mmm.... "Serenity" daydreaming.... |
| OutOfMud | well, nightdreaming. |
| Elais | I was reading some report by a guy who got to be an extra on the set for one day on 'Serenity' |
| OutOfMud | Don't spoil! |
| Elais | spoiler-free report |
| OutOfMud | Alrighty then. Carry on. :) |
| Elais | lemme find the link |
| Elais | http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/messages?msg=15706.283 |
| OutOfMud | Cool |
| MattH | Yeah....50 pictures from the previous weeks shooting. |
| Elais | yeah, the man is a fangeek |
| Elais | makes me wish I was an extra and I'm not that much of a Firefly fan |
| OutOfMud | Where do you see the pictures? |
| MattH | He didn't show them...just said he had them |
| MattH | I admit that I have become a Nathon Fillion (sp?) fan after watching him play Caleb on BTVS |
| Elais | I think Nathan posted on that board I just linked to |
| DeathIsYourArt | I have to go guys. I have approximately 90 votes still to enter into a spreadshet, and then some serious tabulating to do. Have a nice week. TTYS |
| Elais | I've heard raves from fans who have met Nathan in person |
| MattH | CYA DIYA...don't work too hard. |
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| MattH | Hmmmm....I wonder how the tally is going...today is the last day IIRC. |
| Elais | good thing I voted yesterday |
| Elais | 600 is a pretty good number |
| MattH | I understand the last Golden Fangs got about 2000 entries. |
| Elais | really? |
| MattH | Definitely a good number now that the SC is no longer on the air. |
| Elais | yeah, that's what I was thinking |
| MattH | I think DIYA said something like that last week. |
| OutOfMud | Oh man, it's light out. I better get to sleep. See ya. |
| MattH | Hope to see you next week. |
| Elais | see ya later, OutofMud |
| Elais | glad you could join us today |
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| MattH | It is always nice to get new people. :) |
| Elais | new people are hard to come by these days |
| MattH | Especially since the SC is off the air. |
| Elais | tough to get new fans to something that is off the air/network |
| MattH | It is still in syndication on FX isn't it? |
| Elais | the best fight category was a tough one |
| MattH | I haven't even checked broadcast TV for it in a long time. |
| Elais | it is still on FX |
| Elais | I think they repeating the last eps of season 7 now |
| MattH | Best fight was difficult. I was split between Angels fight with Spike and his fight with Hamilton. |
| Elais | I was torn between Smile Time and Angel vs Lindsey |
| MattH | Smile Time was funny....I just didn't like the idea of super-powered Lindsey...I liked him better as a super lawyer. |
| MattH | Watching Puppet Angel vamp out was neat. |
| Elais | I picked 'wee little puppet man' as best quote |
| Elais | everything about Smile Time was neat |
| * MattH sighs |
| MattH | The last Golden Fang awards.... |
| Elais | had to happen |
| MattH | Yeah...still kind of sad about it, though. |
| Elais | unless there is a mega golden fan thing |
| MattH | That might be nice...a Golden Fang for all 7 seasons of Buffy and all 5 of Angel. |
| Elais | the choices would be from each year the golden fang was awarded |
| Elais | it was fun voting in the golden fang |
| MattH | From the winners you mean? |
| Elais | yeah |
| MattH | Hmmm...that wouldn't be too difficult...are all the previous years on the SC website? |
| MattH | Did they do Golden Fangs for season 3? |
| Elais | not sure |
| MattH | I looked at the website...looks like they didn't... |
| MattH | Excluding season 1-3 of BTVS seems kind of wrong for some reason. |
| Elais | might be a little too late to include them |
| MattH | Yeah...probably not a whole lot of people remember that far back. |
| MattH | I was just think what my fav line would be - "You have fruit punch mouth" just popped up. |
| MattH | Or "Let me show you my Gandhi impersonation" "Gandhi" "Yeah, you know if he were really pissed off" from Season 3 |
| Elais | that 'I'm dead, but I'm pretty line' |
| MattH | Another one of my favorites... or "Nice dress" |
| MattH | I wonder if the animated series refer to any of the old episodes |
| Elais | dont' think so |
| MattH | Or what happened over the various summer breaks... |
| Elais | I think they can come up with a lot of stories without actually having to refer to any season 1 eps |
| MattH | It would be some nice for some followup, like a mention of Principal Fluties death in the paper, for instance. |
| MattH | Any idea if we get Snyder back? |
| Elais | as far as I know, Snyder is the principal |
| Elais | not sure if they will bother with referring to Flutie other than in the pilot ep |
| Elais | it could kind of start with Snyder's first day at the school |
| MattH | What about the minor characters - Cordelia? Harmony - etc. |
| MattH | It'd be kind of sad too watch Cordy again...knowing the fate in store for her. |
| Elais | true |
| Elais | but we get snarky cordy again |
| Elais | not sure about harmony |
| MattH | Did we see Jonathan is S1 or was he introduced in S2? |
| Elais | um...think he was in season 1 |
| Elais | tiny scenes though |
| MattH | The earliest I recall him is from Reptile Boy....where Snarky Cordy is ordering him around. |
| Elais | checking imdb |
| Elais | he was in the unaired pilot |
| Elais | first Buffy ep listed is 'Inca Mummy Girl' |
| MattH | Hmmm...I have that...somewhere. |
| Elais | almost time for me to head on out, Matt |
| Elais | I hope the animated series makes it... |
| MattH | Yep...same here. |
| Elais | it will give us something to talk about again |
| MattH | For you lips to God's ears or something like that. |
| Elais | laters Matt |
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| MattH | CYA |
| Session Close (#thesuccubusclub): Wed Jun 16 20:02:51 2004 |